Lupus Patients’ Top-Rated Treatments

House says it's never lupus

When I was looking into GcMAF last year, I found a lyme disease researcher/physician whom was experimenting with low-dose chemo in combination of GcMAF to “tease out” infection.  I assume his logic was based on this vein of HIV research:

“In the new study, researchers gave single doses of a skin cancer chemotherapy drug called vorinostat (Zolinza) to eight HIV-infected patients. The drug seemed to flush out the hidden virus so it was more easily visible.” http://www.healthfinder.gov/news/newsstory.aspx?docid=667028

I thought to myself, “Change is afoot!”, started asking around, seeing if the most open-minded doctors I knew would be willing to experiment with this approach.  As it turns out, the most balls-to-the-FDA-walls doctors weren’t willing to touch this.   Instead of low-dose chemo, I got low-dose tears at the thought of this brilliant concept being stuck in mad scientist territory.

Shortly after, the bombshell Rituximab study on ME/CFS patients came out of Norway from Fluge & Mella, and all of a sudden there was speculation (justifiably) about whether our disease is autoimmune and a spike of interest in drugs used in autoimmune illness.  Rituximab is mainly used in rheumatoid arthritis but has been used off-label in lupus, MS, and others.  I’ve started digging around to see which immune modulating drugs are most effective in other autoimmune illnesses besides Rituximab which carries a rare but potentially fatal risk of JPL, and here is what I found:

1) Plaquenil:

The first line therapy is often antimalarial drugs.  Plaquenil seems to be the most prescribed.  You may be wondering what antimalarial has to do with immune suppression:

“Antimalarials improve lupus by decreasing autoantibody production”  - http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/new_learntreating.aspx?articleid=2246&zoneid=525

Digging through patient ratings, the response seems above-average & incredibly consistent:

Curetogether for plaquenil (n=6) : 66%

Curetogether for antimalarials (n=25): 60%

webMD (n=192): 76%

RemedyFind* (n=56): 66%   *Note: this is an old survey from 2004

Plaquenil is already used in lyme disease, but not ME/CFS unless there is a high ANA:

“(Plaquenil) is prescribed to CFS and FMS patients if they have a high ANA level plus symptoms of Sjogren’s syndrome, lupus, or other autoimmune diseases. - http://www.wfprofessional.com/treatment.htm

2) Prednisone:

The most commonly prescribed steroid for lupus, according to www.lupus.org, but as swift as it is in suppressing the immune system, it has an famously long list of side effects.  Despite this concern, the ratings for effectiveness are overwhelmingly positive and again, incredibly consistent:

Curetogether (n=19): 79%

WebMD (n=35): 78%

RemedyFind* (n=14): 73%   *Note: this is an old survey from 2004

Sifting through the forums such as http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=15&m=2345043, I find an intriguing pattern of responses vacillating wildly between amazing & downright horrible.  I’ve read a number of patients say their long-standing pain went away while on it.

3) Methotrexate:

A bit of a buzz word lately on twitterverse.  This is an antifolate & antimetabolite chemo drug.  This is a great example of a high-dose chemotherapy drug that has been successfully used in lower doses for autoimmune disease.  Although it’s the gold standard drug for rheumatoid arthritis (another post will focus on RA drugs), “it has also been shown to be very effective in treating skin lesions, arthritis, and pleuritis in people with lupus.” - http://www.lupus.org/webmodules/webarticlesnet/templates/new_learntreating.aspx?articleid=2246&zoneid=525.  This is usually only prescribed after steroids are ruled out.

Here are some patient ratings:

Curetogether (n=6): 67%

WebMD (n=16): 76%

Important for ME/CFS patients: In another study by Fluge & Mella, they also used methotrexate to resolve recurring symptoms for  1 out of 2 patients (whom had been given Rituximab already):

“We reasoned that the transient CFS recovery was related to methotrexate treatment, which induces immunomodulation in part through B-cell depletion” - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19566965

Caroline T. Anderson lived for 40 years with ME/CFS before recovering with a combo of famvir & methotrexate (she started with just methotrexate).  She seems confident that methotrexate worked because of antiviral properties, but based on the very mixed results we hear from patients on Valcyte, I think the jury is clearly still out on why it helped.

Here, Dr. Dantini talks abut Caroline’s recovery, noting that her “she had had CFS for decades and her recovery was astonishingly rapid (six weeks)”  - http://phoenixrising.me/archives/519

Final Thoughts

Dr. Dantini mentioned in the link above that he finds an equal percentage of herpesviruses in Lupus as he does in Fibromyalgia.  Despite the insistence from many in our communities that we have an infectious disease, the utilitarian approach is to find drugs that restore quality of life while looking for cause, infectious or otherwise.  There needs to be more research on 1) what mechanisms our illnesses share with Lupus & 2) more clinical trials looking at off-the-shelf drugs for illnesses that haven’t traditionally been considered autoimmune.

If you have ME/CFS, FMS, or Lyme Disease and have been prescribed any immune modulating Lupus drugs, we would love to hear about your experience.  You can write us privately as well at [email protected]

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kathryn-Stephens/100000441557458 Kathryn Stephens

    Excellent work, as usual, Joey! Thanks so much. 

    • Joey

      Thanks Kat!  If you think of any topics you’d like us to blog about, please let us know :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002454280497 Terry Hunt

    Hi all, another great blog! I am on both plaquenil and pred. They have both helped with pain and Meniere’s but don’t touch the fatigue, malaise and PENE. I have been offered methotrex vs pred but have been afraid to rock the boat. My ANA is fairly high and have symptoms too of Sjogren’s. I use both Restasis and Biotene for those. I have been treated extensively for Lyme and coinfections by a leading LLMD. I’m still pretty non-functioning on a regular basis. Oh the joy…thanks for this blog!

    • Joey

      Hi Terry!  Thanks for the kind words.  Interesting that you’ve been offered Mex.  I’m really curious what they would do for the fatigue & malaise.  

      I heard about Restasis & Biotene for the Sjogren’s!  I hope to do a blog on Sjogren’s in the near future so I appreciate you sharing your treatments.  

      I hope you find something that helps the fatigue soon!  That’s the biggest thing we struggle with here as well.  

  • Saylesgawron

    So… Benlysta is new but I hope to God it replaces all of these meds as the most effective. I’ve been on it nice October and I’m off Plaquenil and Imuran. Weaning off of Prednisone now! Ask your doctors about it and find me on twitter @PurpleTurtles33 if you wanna talk about it!!! Peace.

    • joey

      Hi Saylesgawron,

      I really wanted to write about Benlysta but there’s scarcely any crowdsourced data on it.  It definitely sounds promising & I’m gonna scout out what patients have to say about it before I post on it.  We’ll find you on twitter :)

  • Kati

    Here is my story. I started with joint pain (fingers amd toes) and high ANA in the late 1990′s. Though i didn’t receive a rheumatologic diagnosis, i was started on Plaquenil and it took care of most of my joint pain. It was in November 2008 that I got ill with EBV infection, and June 2010 tht I was formally dignosed with ME ( Dr Klimas)- and stopped Plaquenil just a month before seeing her, in order to get her immunology testing.

    To this day the fingers and toes pain ismostly gone, though I have one ankle that shows degenerative changes, and giving me grief one in a while. At 43 I am a bit young to have degenerative changes. I haven’t restarted Plaquenil since 2010, and as far as I know my ANA titer is still 1:1080 (last tested in 2010)

    • Joey

      Hi Kati,

      That’s really interesting.  So Plaq resolved most of your pain and it hasn’t recurred in 2 years off the drug!  Are they putting you on anything else for the ANA?

      • Kati

        In Canada ANA testing is not encouraged unless Lupus os suspected. It is very non specific and as you may know, there are better biomarkers than ANA for lupus, Sjogrens and RA.

        Plaquenil is not a drug that works instantly. It takes about 6months to kick in and I had to take antiinflammatories in tandem forthe first couple of years. It can be hrd on the stomach and can be toxic for the eye sight so yearly testing at the ophtalmologist are mandatory.

        i’d be curious to see what the ANA is doing after a few months of Rituximab.